Plaid on Sunday Politics ...

... are as together as granulated sugar:

The candidates on Nuclear:

• Leanne (switch the lights off) Wood.
• Lord (the lights are on with Wylfa ) Elis-Thomas
• Elin (what lights) Jones

The King is dead, long live the Queen (of Plaid), happy days ..............

Elin Jones, a new set of teeth, ...

... unfortunately they belong to someone else.

She said ...

"If Plaid wins a mandate to govern, any attempt to ignore that mandate by the UK Government will be an affront to the collective will of the people of Wales and I won’t stand for that. The days of a lapdog Welsh First Minister will end when Carwyn Jones leaves office, and Westminster had better get used to that."

... and what was it all about ?

... speculation that Trident will be located when Scotland becomes independent. Milford Haven has been suggested as an alternative site by some defence analysts.

Elin Jones, leadership hopeful also said ...

"... Plaid Cymru has always been fiercely opposed to the UK’s possession of weapons of mass destruction and I want to reassert our opposition as the debate about the future of Trident grows in light of the Scottish independence referendum"

In full, an article by Martin Shipton, at WalesOnline

The outpourings of this Plaid hopeful is an own goal, she would be expected to explain why she opposed the 40,000 jobs the re-location would attract.  Nuclear weapons are not a particularly family friendly set of options, but we have them as a packet with the Trident delivery system.  It needs a deep water port ......... this is something we are definitely all in it together, unless you bury your heads in the sand during war as some have ...

Watching Plaid hopefuls on S4C ...

... I realised why the Welsh Assembly is so necessary, it is to reward the political faithful, to give hope to the political deadbeats, and the last (political) chance saloon for those reaching their dotage, in effect it is for the runners up, the political booby prize.

The designers, the conceptualisers, the inept who created devolution for Britain couldn't have envisaged the mess of potage that causes so much hot air amongst political pundits, would morph into such a dreadful talking shop that inflicts so much harm on the innocent.

And the proof of this particular pudding ...

In a speech, (reported by the BBC) Mr Jones will reaffirm his stance that there is no place for competition in public services.

... this lack of competition, might it be the reason medical equipment can cost so much more than other equivalent substitutes.

... this lack of competition, might it be the reason that patients are left calling for help.

... this lack of competition, might it be the reason that 27% of people in Wales wait more than six weeks for diagnostic services, compared to 1% in England.

Did the architects of devolution ever consider the effect that the political also-ran might have on the lives of the peoples of Wales, it cannot have, who in their right minds would inflict torture ....

And they are off, the race to create the first ...

... made in Wales legislation without Westminster is on, and what a race, a race between those that would  slaughter Badgers and those that would harvest Human Organs without your approval; you would have thought that the priority would have been Health or Education or even our bereft Economy.

Prior warnings by political pundits have been ignored, washed over, subsumed in the dross of political expediency, we are about to embark on a journey without a political lifeboat; and there is nothing that can be done to mitigate the effects of the two Bills that will be supported by a coalition of such magnitude it rides roughshod over any opposition.

Hat Tip Peter Black AM on the proceedings at the Assembly that demonstrate a dictatorship ...

Peter Black: I wish to focus on the welfare of protected species and, in particular, the Order that you have announced today for the control of bovine tuberculosis in the north Pembrokeshire, Ceredigion and Carmarthenshire area. You will know that, between January and November 2010, there was a 34 per cent reduction on the previous year in the number of cattle slaughtered as a result of TB. That appears to be a long-term trend. Therefore, in making the decision to bring forward this Order, what estimate have you made of the reduction in the incidence of TB that will come about as a result of the cull that you are proposing in this area?

Elin Jones: I am not sure how you can say that the statistics from January to October of last year signify a long-term trend. I must look at the longer-term trend of the disease. There have been times when fewer cattle have been removed than at other times during the trend of an increase over the last 10 years: 2006 was a case in point, and, as the statistics outline, 2010 may be another. I will not make judgements on how the statistics over that period relate to a longer-term trend. We have to assess the longer-term trend over the longer term. That is what I have to do. It is too early to say whether the cattle testing and removal measures that we have put in place as a Government have had a direct impact on the short-term statistics to which you have alluded.

Peter Black: What is the estimate?

The Presiding Officer: Order.

It is a dreadful day when the Presiding Officer prevents further questioning, in this case by Peter Black, is this democracy in action or the suppression of debate. In our unicameral Assembly there is so little debate that our democracy could be referred to as a dictatorship.


Thanks to the input from two readers, I modified my proposed recall to extend the period for recall from three days to five, this is because the plenary session is held every Wednesday, a five workday lapsed period, and the final paragraph is simplified.

Legislative Recall and Referendum

Where a Bill has been passed by the Welsh Assembly, one-third of the members of the Welsh Assembly may, within five weekdays from the final passing of the Bill, request of the Plenary Chair that the Bill be submitted to a referendum. Such request shall be made in writing and signed by the members making the request.

At the referendum votes shall be cast for or against the Bill. For the Bill to be rejected, a majority of the electors who vote, and not less than thirty per cent of all persons who are entitled to vote, shall have voted against the Bill.

Finance Bills, Salaries and Pensions Bills, Taxation (Direct and Indirect) Bills, UK and European Union government Bills, as well as Bills for the purpose of discharging existing treaty obligations shall not be submitted to decision by referendum.

It seems the petition should be worded so that the Welsh Assembly Government petitions the UK Government to include the proposal into the Government of Wales Act 2006 at section 114 or 115, for those interested the Act may be read here.

No rush he said, ....

... Carwyn Jones that is, it's just a shame he didn't tell his cabinet.  Or more to the point, Rural Affairs Minister Elin Jones and Health Minister Edwina Hart, both pieces of legislation contraversial, both pieces of legislation questionable.  Jones wants to slaughter badgers even though the reason for such action is rapidly reducing and Hart wants your body organs to become WAG property even though compulsion has been demonstrated in Spain as being ineffectual.

So how do the political representatives in opposition resist unneeded and unnecessary legislation in a unicameral legislative body where a single group holds a very dominant position, seemingly in perpetuity, the Welsh Assembly Government is in effect a dictatorship that cannot be effectively opposed except at the four yearly elections.

If a politician were able to challenge the government of the day, with a large enough body of Assembly Members, 20% for example, to put the question to the electorate in a referendum might be a good first step,something similar to Denmark where ...

Where a Bill has been passed by the Folketing (Welsh Assembly), one-third of the members of the Folketing (Welsh Assembly) may, within three weekdays from the final passing of the Bill, request of the President that the Bill be submitted to a referendum. Such request shall be made in writing and signed by the members making the request.

Just as with the Danish model, it shouldn't be designed to hamstring the day to day running of government, therefore certain administrative areas such as budget might be excluded, for example in Denmark its constitution continues ...

Finance Bills, Supplementary Appropriation Bills, Provisional Appropriation Bills, Government Loan Bills, Civil Servants (Amendment) Bills, Salaries and Pensions Bills, Naturalization Bills, Expropriation Bills, Taxation (Direct and Indirect) Bills, as well as Bills introduced for the purpose of discharging existing treaty obligations shall not be submitted to decision by referendum.

With a population of five and a half million, Denmark is not so dissimilar to Wales, though its Parliament consists of 175 members, one member to 30,000 people, the combination of MP's and AM's is a very close match.

Would sufficient people support a petition to the Assembly to create such a tool for our elected members to hold the Welsh Assembly Government to account, or is such a concept alien to Welsh democracy, accountabil;ity to to whole electorate, not just to its particular agenda.